lack of appetite due to shedding

Is my banana a bold mack snow? because what you describe is like her.. she looks very bold in her marking.. in this photo below.



that heart shape is gorgeous! is that why you called him eros? is eros not the greek god counterpart of the roman god cupid?

Eros is the greek god of love and sexual desire which I though befitting since he was an anniversary present for my 10 year wedding anniversary What makes Eros a bold mack is that reverse stripe down his back... looks like yours has some starts of a bold stripe but hard to say with that pic. I'd need to see the entire back region.

yh i knw i wouldnt go into it blind ... defo not

ohh coool. yeah i notice the stripe now its lovely. I think that heart is very very cool though. the name is perfect for him!

I don't think mine is a bold mack snow then.. i dont think she has a stripe all the way down her back. she has the start of one at the top of her back, is it still possible she's bold?

I'm pretty sure since she has such pronounced bands that she would not be considered a bold BUT if you were to breed her to a fellow like Eros then you could possibly be able to get some bolds out of that pairing.

coool

Im gonna chip into this with a reply to a lot of things that have been said regarding my areas of expertise; morphology and breeding

gothicgurrrl wrote: thats why i think yours is a mack snow.. has anyone else told you what he might be?

@mrs looney; The gecko looks to be a mack snow, but due to its darker and smaller complex it may be of afghan origin, unlikely but possible. IF at any point you DO venture into breeding, the gecko should be considered a 'Normal' morph until proven otherwise.

gothicgurrrl wrote:a white mack snow? there are no mack snows that are white.. they all look like my banana. but there are other snow morphs.. like super snow, super snow enigmas, blizzards, diablo blancos and they are all gorgeous. I am obsessed with the snow morphs.

@mrs looney; What you may have seen was a very young mack snow. Since you have seen, Sarah's mack snow, Kermit's Mack Snow and your own, and they are all adult, this means you have only seen a matured mack snow. What you are considering as a white mack snow may be a young one, as all mack snows are born completely white and black (white with black banding)

@gothicgurrrl; The morphs you listed are 'white' morphs, white in colour, but should not be mistaken as snow morphs as blizzards, diablo blanco's and other white gecko do not contain any snow gene's, but only other genes which make the gecko white.

Just as an information snippet; there are four types of snow.
-mack snow/super snow (mack snow being heterozygous and super snow being the homozygous of the co dom gene)
-Gem snow
-TUG snow
-line bred snow

mrs looney wrote:i think i got that mistaken with the super snow ... they are gorgous i just entered the compitition have a look at me pic

@mrs looney; If you do love super snows and are considering buying a new male, i will have plenty of super snows available later in the year, and forum members can get things real cheap off of me

gothicgurrrl wrote: i did! awww its soo cute.
i love it when they look up at us

you should look up blizzards and diablo blancos.. they are pure white!

@mrs looney; I'll also have some blizzards and blazing blizzards available, for diablo blanco's Sam will have them.

Kermit wrote:Mack snow will never really stay white their entire lives. Only a diablo blanco will do that and even then some seem to have a pale yellow tint to them. My boy is a bold mack snow who had a TON of white as a baby but not any more... here's a before and after of him to give you an idea how they mature

Just to avoid confusion, there a lots of other morphs besides diablo blanco's which can stay white there entire lives. Anything containing blizzard genes can be stark white, to pale yellow tinge to dark drab grey.

gothicgurrrl wrote:Is my banana a bold mack snow? because what you describe is like her.. she looks very bold in her marking.. in this photo below.

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ohh coool. yeah i notice the stripe now its lovely. I think that heart is very very cool though. the name is perfect for him!

I don't think mine is a bold mack snow then.. i dont think she has a stripe all the way down her back. she has the start of one at the top of her back, is it still possible she's bold?

@gothicgurrrl; The bold-ness of mack snow markings can vary a lot, to be considered bold it must be from bold lines or hyperxanthic lines, hence genetically bold. A gecko that hatches out especially bold may not be considered as a bold mack snow as such, but may have the potential to create some more especially bold gecko's through selective line breeding.

mrs looney wrote:yh i knw i wouldnt go into it blind ... defo not

@mrs looney; That's great to hear, its hard to believe how many people go into it too quickly and end up with any problems. if you have any questions about breeding then you know where to come haha

Sorry for the long winded post guys haha, i joined the conversation a bit late.

i would love to have another one but i cant put a male in with a male can i because they will fight, yeah i will defo ask you about everything if i ever want to breed jordan

Def don't want toput 2 males in together as they will likely fight until one is done. Also housing 2 leos together in general is a bad idea imo. Maybe looking into rack systems or tubs could be a better way to house multipul leos with out having tanks everywhere if you want to add more later.

yeah i see what u mean x

racks are a great idea, though mainly used for breeding or collecting as such. But usually rather simple to make.

Obviously i use a rack as a breeder and im sure Sam probably does too.
Im pretty positive there will be some tutorials on the internet about making them.


The best thing in the UK for rack tubs is RUB's (really useful boxes), found in staple's, argos, rymans etc.

Also if you don't mind spending a bit more, the exo terra faunariums are great. They are clear and come in good sizes, these are what i use.

Even if it isn't a "traditional" type rack system, you could always get a wooden little bookshelf thing and a couple plastic sweater boxes and do your own makeshift rack. You just won't be able to view your leos as well as if they were in tanks. I'm pretty sure the larger tupperware storage bins don't come in clear.

well im not goin to be breding any time soon lol dnt worrie guys bt if i do plan to get him a mate i will come to you first and make sure i have everything right.... i have got a bit of lyno bt i dont want to put it in the tank because i am worried that there is gunna be some toxic gasses coming off of it?? will it??

No toxic off gasses until you're over 115-120 degrees F.

so it will be ok with the heat matt directly underneath the lyno?? because remember my heat matt is inside my viv

It should be just fine. If you're a little uncomfortable with it like that you can put a thick piece of cardboard between the lyno and the heat mat. Keep in mind tho you really need to get that probe thermometer to accurately monitor your floor temps.

yeah i am planning on getting a thermometer in the nexts week or so..

In the meanwhile then I would suggest then puttng that round one that is on the wall on the floor over your uth so you have SOME idea of exactly how hot it is on the floor with the lyno in place. Since the air temp really is irrelivant you don't really need it on the wall.

well i havent got no lyno down so cnt do it as of yet

I forget Sarah, are your temps too hot or too cold? Sorry i can't remember

Because if they are too cold, i'd recommend taking the sand out and just using kitchen roll until you get the lyno. The Kitchen roll will help boost the floor temps up for a while.
and as Kel mentioned, put the round thermometer down on the kitchen roll.

Exo Terra Digital Thermometers are less than a tenner and great.
Zoo meds are like 6 quid and pretty good too.

Here's a good place for them: http://www.bluelizardreptiles.co.uk/reptileheating/thermometers

Too cold Jordan and supplimenting with UV basking type light.

Ah yes that's it, now i remember.


Any updates Sarah? Hope its all going good for you. The weather seems to be heating up a bit recently so with a thinner substrate your temps will likely reach high enough with just a heat mat. But consider buying a light for just the winter times.

At the current weather temperature's in my area (South Yorkshire), my heat cable (just a thin cable) is managing to reach optimum temps on its own. So surely with a thinner substrate the heat mat will

Both my leos don't eat a day or two before they shed, maybe only one mealie but that's it. Then when the shed is done (usually in the morning), they will eat voraciously that night even tho they ate their shed earlier. One is an 8 week old baby and the other is a 6 month juvie (don't know if age makes any difference).

Babies seem to have endless appetites, sometimes to the point of regurging food.