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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:56 am

Help on what morphs I have. New_ip15Help on what morphs I have. New_ip16Help on what morphs I have. New_ip17 I belive one is an bell albino and the other is a snow. But not for sure. So please help me out.
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:58 am

Help on what morphs I have. New_ip18 Here is another pic.
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Post by smsararas2 Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:12 am

To me the last one looks like an APTOR....Albino Patternless Tangerine ORange. The first one I would like to say Mack Snow but I am not positive. I know there are others that will chime in here and confirm or deny what I have said.....lol
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:58 am

Ok thanks for the help. If anybody else knows please help. When they get older im considering breeding these but havent maid my mind up on what male color morph yet.
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Post by Kermit Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:19 am

Color morph isn't as important as not crossing the albino strains. If you got these guys from a breeder they should be able to tell you the morphs... if they were bought at some big box pet store then it would likely not be wise to breed unknown morphs together as it will only serve to muddy the genetic waters so to speak and put a lot more mutt leos on the market with unknown morphology.

There is a terrible epidemic in the leo fancy right now... that anyone with a leo thinks they should breed it and produce more leos of unknown morphology. As fun of a hobby as this is it really does the hobby no justice when beginner breeders make these serious mistakes. There needs to be an understanding that leos of unknown heritage should remain pets only as offering a guess on their morph only is that, a guess, and doesn't even come close to touching the hets in the animal. Imo only animals obtained from knowledgeable breeders with known lineage should be bred to better the fancy instead of oversaturating it with a lot of pet quality animals that will only fall into the same unexperienced hands and propigate the same problems... Sorry if this seems harsh, it isn't meant to be, but it is a MAJOR undertaking deciding to breed your animals, there's a lot to consider when breeding.
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:27 am

well the albino one, when I went to buy her they knew it was a albino and told me it was. But I didnt know what kind of albino. The other one I got her at petsmart in Columbus, OH so I dont realy know about her. But she realy looks like a snow. I will get my camra and take better pics. The pics above was taken with my ipod.
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Post by Kermit Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:29 am

Again tho not knowing what albino strain, tremper, bell or rainwater/los vegas is mucho important. Don't wanna cross those strains
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:37 am

I know. Thats why im having second thoughts about breeding them. I might just go buy a pair from a breeder. If I have the money to.Sad
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Post by Kermit Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:39 am

It would certainly be a better option in the long run if you want to be taken seriously as an ethical breeder of high quality animals for sure. There's some breeders in Ohio that I'm sure you could pick up a trio or a pair from rather inexpensively ($80-$160 range) if their left overs from last years breeding season. I paid about $110 with shipping for my boy out of Utah. Not to mention what I pay for my show rabbits... Ugh $75 for a 2.4 pound rabbit Smile but a grand champion Smile
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:02 am

I might have to look up some top breeder's from Ohio and Kentucky. Because I live in Kentucky. Any sugestions on a good breeder in my area?
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Post by kathstew Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:39 pm

Keep in mind that breeding leopard geckos isn't profitable. You are going to be in the red - for a few years, if you breed that long. I recommend doing a lot of research before you attempt breeding. Research all the different morphs. Decide what you like, and find a breeder who has what you are looking for. Don't buy from the closest breeder - choosing what you like is going to make you want to stick with breeding leos longer.
I wish you the best in your breeding! This is my first year breeding leos as well. Smile
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Post by Kodieh Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:33 pm

I feel like the second is an APTOR, too. As for the first, I think its just a nice normal. The only way to say it is mack, is to breed it or have seen it as a baby. So, for now, it's a nice normal. Smile
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:57 pm

I got it when it was a baby and it was about the same, a light yellow color with the bands on it.
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:01 pm

I have researched alot about breeding. I have a incubator and everything for hatching leo's. Just been out of leopard geckos for awhile and got back into them and was wanting to know more about the morphs and breeding them before I start breeding them. And this forum looks to be the best place to find out alot about leopard gecko's.Help on what morphs I have. 131791
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Post by Kodieh Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:09 pm

Bowtech--101-341 wrote:I got it when it was a baby and it was about the same, a light yellow color with the bands on it.

Then yes, it's just a simple normal. Mack's are black and white when young.
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Post by Kermit Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:11 pm

Thank you Smile we pride ourselves on giving the best most accurate information possible Smile
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:15 pm

Thank you and everybody that helps.
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Post by benr7sj Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:31 pm

I dont know how close you are to Lexington but there is an expo at the Thoroughbred center Sat., Jan. 21 and another expo Sat., Feb. 4 at the expo center downtown. There always seem to be quite a few breeders selling leos. You could probably pick up a good breding pair or trio there reasonably priced.
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Post by Bowtech--101-341 Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:01 am

Ok, I forgot about that expo going on. I dont have the money to get them now but I should by this summer. I live about an hour or so from lexington.
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Post by 707Gecko92 Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:03 pm

Kermit wrote:Color morph isn't as important as not crossing the albino strains. If you got these guys from a breeder they should be able to tell you the morphs... if they were bought at some big box pet store then it would likely not be wise to breed unknown morphs together as it will only serve to muddy the genetic waters so to speak and put a lot more mutt leos on the market with unknown morphology.

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me: I agree and back this up, I know my females an Tremper albino and unlike other people if there wasn't major supporting evidence I wouldn't have bred her. But currently as was stated people are going to petco and buying animals they have no business breeding and muddying up the gene pool for the rest of us. I guess this just really annoys/angers me. no spam Gecko
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