Albino differences
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Albino differences
How can i tell which Mario is?
I am pretty sure he is a patternless albino but there are three kinds of albino arent there?
Tremper, Rainwater and Bell. I google imaged them and couldnt really tell the difference between the pictures.
I got Mario at the local reptile rescue/food shop. His owner brought a box full of about twelve different reptiles, i think seven or eight of them were leopard geckos and Mario was in a little box of his own. She dropped the box off on the counter and left, i opened the box and got Mario out and decided i adored him and my boyfriend bought him for me right there and then so i have no idea how old he is, what he is used to eating, whether he was kept in a room without natural sunlight or where he came from so i dont know what morph his parents were or anything.
I am pretty sure he is a patternless albino but there are three kinds of albino arent there?
Tremper, Rainwater and Bell. I google imaged them and couldnt really tell the difference between the pictures.
I got Mario at the local reptile rescue/food shop. His owner brought a box full of about twelve different reptiles, i think seven or eight of them were leopard geckos and Mario was in a little box of his own. She dropped the box off on the counter and left, i opened the box and got Mario out and decided i adored him and my boyfriend bought him for me right there and then so i have no idea how old he is, what he is used to eating, whether he was kept in a room without natural sunlight or where he came from so i dont know what morph his parents were or anything.
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Re: Albino differences
Some pictures, particularly the eyes, would help us determine what kind of albino he is. You mostly judge the 3 different strains of albinos by the eyes.
Silver looking eyes like the one I have in my icon are usually tremper albino.
Reddish/pinkish eyes are usually bell albino.
Darker silver eyes are usually rainwater (las vegas) albino.
But without knowing the genetic background or test breed, you can never be 100% sure. If the person that bred Mario mixed a tremper albion to a bell albino, the gecko would carry hets for both albino genes even if he doesn't show them.
That's usually one big difference when purchasing a gecko in local pet stores vs a reputable online breeder. You normally don't get any genetic background info on the gecko you purchase in the stores. There's nothing wrong with that if you are not looking to breed, a cute healthy leopard gecko is a cute healthy leopard gecko worthy of a good home. But if you are looking to breed, pet store geckos are not the place to get your male/female breeders from.
Silver looking eyes like the one I have in my icon are usually tremper albino.
Reddish/pinkish eyes are usually bell albino.
Darker silver eyes are usually rainwater (las vegas) albino.
But without knowing the genetic background or test breed, you can never be 100% sure. If the person that bred Mario mixed a tremper albion to a bell albino, the gecko would carry hets for both albino genes even if he doesn't show them.
That's usually one big difference when purchasing a gecko in local pet stores vs a reputable online breeder. You normally don't get any genetic background info on the gecko you purchase in the stores. There's nothing wrong with that if you are not looking to breed, a cute healthy leopard gecko is a cute healthy leopard gecko worthy of a good home. But if you are looking to breed, pet store geckos are not the place to get your male/female breeders from.
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I see. Mario has the same eyes as Lipsy pretty much so i would think he is a rainwater albino from what you said. They're just dark and normal looking. What would happen if the two different albinos were bred together?
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Re: Albino differences
Normal eyes are normal morph, not albinos. Albinos would mean no black pigments on either body or in the eyes. So if you got a patternless gecko with dark normal eyes, then it's likely a murphy's patternless.
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This is exactly what Mario looks like, complete spitting image except he doesnt have pink on his feet
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Re: Albino differences
Mardy gave a great answer
If you post a picture of his eyes we can most likely tell you.
Breeding albinos together causes problems knowing the genetics of the offspring.
You breed a rainwater to a bell, the offspring is het for both and will generally look like a normal leo. The problem is, if you breed the hatchling to another leo just like it, you wouldn't know what it is. You wouldn't know what its het for and what it actually is.
If Mario has eyes close to Lipsy's I think she's a tremper.
If you post a picture of his eyes we can most likely tell you.
Breeding albinos together causes problems knowing the genetics of the offspring.
You breed a rainwater to a bell, the offspring is het for both and will generally look like a normal leo. The problem is, if you breed the hatchling to another leo just like it, you wouldn't know what it is. You wouldn't know what its het for and what it actually is.
If Mario has eyes close to Lipsy's I think she's a tremper.
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Re: Albino differences
You think Lipsy is different and not Mario? I need to check, i couldn't see properly because its dark and he is hiding from me :') I think Lipsys may be a tiny bit lighter. I'm just gonna check tomorrow and i'll tell you haha. Surely that would just be a problem if you're selling the babies? For instance, if i had two albinos and they made babies but i just kept them as pets too it wouldnt really be a problem would it?
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Re: Albino differences
I meant I think Mario is a tremper. Sorry! I wrote she instead of he.
Lipsy is I think a high yellow. (I saw your pic of her in another thread).
I guess it wouldn't be a problem if you weren't planning on breeding the babies, but generally its frowned upon by breeders. When there are so many other morphs available its fairly easy not to breed two albino strains together.
Lipsy is I think a high yellow. (I saw your pic of her in another thread).
I guess it wouldn't be a problem if you weren't planning on breeding the babies, but generally its frowned upon by breeders. When there are so many other morphs available its fairly easy not to breed two albino strains together.
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Re: Albino differences
Its a bad idea even if your keeping them as pets.
Technically there would be no issues with it, if you were definitely keeping that gecko until death.
But Gecko's can live to twenty years and behond, and there is no way of knowing if you will still have that gecko in the future and the amount of owners it will go through in its life, and likely all of the owners will consider breeding the gecko.
so my point is sort of that there is no chance of 100% knowing a gecko won't be bred.
Technically there would be no issues with it, if you were definitely keeping that gecko until death.
But Gecko's can live to twenty years and behond, and there is no way of knowing if you will still have that gecko in the future and the amount of owners it will go through in its life, and likely all of the owners will consider breeding the gecko.
so my point is sort of that there is no chance of 100% knowing a gecko won't be bred.
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These are Lipsys eyes, i still havent been able to see Mario's he hides well all of the time
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