Bump on back
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Karagain
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Bump on back
I have had my leopard gecko for about 10 years. There is a small bump on the top of her lower back. I dont think she originally had this bump, but it has now been there for quite a while ( probably at least 5 years) and I have never thought anything of it because it does not seem to bother her in any way. So its just a little bump that doesnt do anything... does anyone know anything about this, or if it could effect her later in life?
i attached a photo you can see the small bump in it
Care Questionaire:
About your leo:
- Sex F
- Age & Weight 10 - ?
- Morph (if you know)
- How long have you owned your leo 10 yr
- Where was he/she obtained (Pet store, breeder, wild caught, etc.) pet store
- Is your leo wild caught or captive bred captive
A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo once a week
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how no
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.
B) Fecals
- Describe-Do they look any different than normal no
- When was the last time he/she went yesterday
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem/issue you are experiencing and how long it has been going on
bump, few years
Housing:
A) Enclosure 10 gal tank
- Size
- Type (ex. glass tank, screen enclosure, tub kept) glass
- Type of substrate (sand, vinyl tiles, ceramic/stone tiles, etc.) sand
- Hides (how many, location and type (hothide, humid hide, regular hide etc.) 2 one open one enclosed
B) Heating
- What is your main heat source (heat bulbs, under tank heat mat etc) **Please include the brand and size of your UTH if you use one** lamp
- What are your cage temps (hot side and cool side) 80's
- Method of regulating your heat source (thermostat, rheostat, light dimmer etc.) lamp timer
- What are you using to measure your temps (probe thermometer, infrared lazer tempo gun, stick on temp gauge, etc) stick on temp
- Do you have any lights (describe type (red,blue, basking etc) and cycle duration) daylight light
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females) none
- Describe health, or previous problems of cage mates
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What are you feeding mostly crickets
- How often are you feeding your gecko and how much per feeding? about 15 crickets every week an a half
- How are you feeding (hand fed, tongs/tweezers, left in dish, ect) she eats herself
B) Supplements
- What calcium suppliment are you using (please include brand) rep cal
- What multi vitimin are you using (please include brand)
-How are you implimenting your suppliment program (how often do you dust with each suppliment, do you leave calcium in the tank 24/7 etc.) dust every feeding
- What are you gutloading your feeder insects with
i attached a photo you can see the small bump in it
Care Questionaire:
About your leo:
- Sex F
- Age & Weight 10 - ?
- Morph (if you know)
- How long have you owned your leo 10 yr
- Where was he/she obtained (Pet store, breeder, wild caught, etc.) pet store
- Is your leo wild caught or captive bred captive
A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo once a week
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how no
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.
B) Fecals
- Describe-Do they look any different than normal no
- When was the last time he/she went yesterday
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem/issue you are experiencing and how long it has been going on
bump, few years
Housing:
A) Enclosure 10 gal tank
- Size
- Type (ex. glass tank, screen enclosure, tub kept) glass
- Type of substrate (sand, vinyl tiles, ceramic/stone tiles, etc.) sand
- Hides (how many, location and type (hothide, humid hide, regular hide etc.) 2 one open one enclosed
B) Heating
- What is your main heat source (heat bulbs, under tank heat mat etc) **Please include the brand and size of your UTH if you use one** lamp
- What are your cage temps (hot side and cool side) 80's
- Method of regulating your heat source (thermostat, rheostat, light dimmer etc.) lamp timer
- What are you using to measure your temps (probe thermometer, infrared lazer tempo gun, stick on temp gauge, etc) stick on temp
- Do you have any lights (describe type (red,blue, basking etc) and cycle duration) daylight light
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females) none
- Describe health, or previous problems of cage mates
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What are you feeding mostly crickets
- How often are you feeding your gecko and how much per feeding? about 15 crickets every week an a half
- How are you feeding (hand fed, tongs/tweezers, left in dish, ect) she eats herself
B) Supplements
- What calcium suppliment are you using (please include brand) rep cal
- What multi vitimin are you using (please include brand)
-How are you implimenting your suppliment program (how often do you dust with each suppliment, do you leave calcium in the tank 24/7 etc.) dust every feeding
- What are you gutloading your feeder insects with
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icegoo- Member
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Re: Bump on back
Hello and welcome to Leopard Gecko forums
The first problem I see with the set up is that your temps are too low! The bare min temps are 88F and max should be around 95f. This may be because you are using a lamp for heating which are for basking species (Heliotherms) like beardies but Leopards are Thigmotherms which means they get heat from surfaces i.e. they rely on belly heat. The best way of creating optimal belly heat is through a heat mat on a thermostat set to about 90-94f
also the stick-on thermometres are not so accurate when it comes to measuring the temps, I would recommend a probe thermometre to measure your temps to ensure they are correct
A close up picture of her lump and one from above may help us identify this and also could you include a picture of her walking/standing up? those will hopefully help us help you
Does the lump cause her any pain or has it gotten bigger at all? If not then she may be a deformatity occured during growth. If you are worried then the best thing would be to go see a qualified and highly recommended herp vet
Hope this helps
The first problem I see with the set up is that your temps are too low! The bare min temps are 88F and max should be around 95f. This may be because you are using a lamp for heating which are for basking species (Heliotherms) like beardies but Leopards are Thigmotherms which means they get heat from surfaces i.e. they rely on belly heat. The best way of creating optimal belly heat is through a heat mat on a thermostat set to about 90-94f
also the stick-on thermometres are not so accurate when it comes to measuring the temps, I would recommend a probe thermometre to measure your temps to ensure they are correct
Is this every other day?about 15 crickets every week an a half
Depending on how many times you feed them in a week, adults should only have their meals dust 1-2 times a week or you can accidently oversupplement which can cause problems. Juvies need more supplementing because they are growing, but adults need less. It is also best to keep a small dish of calcium dust in the enclosure and they are able to replenish their calcium needs when they need to.dust every feeding
A close up picture of her lump and one from above may help us identify this and also could you include a picture of her walking/standing up? those will hopefully help us help you
Does the lump cause her any pain or has it gotten bigger at all? If not then she may be a deformatity occured during growth. If you are worried then the best thing would be to go see a qualified and highly recommended herp vet
Hope this helps
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Re: Bump on back
While not as related, I'd really pick up a heat mat. Leo's rely on under belly heat for tasks such as smooth digestion.
Hopefully the lump is nothing malign
Hopefully the lump is nothing malign
Eszharen- Member
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bump on back
woops, i forgot to mention i do have a heat mat.
the bump hasnt changed size and doesnt seem to cause any pain or problem.
heres more photos of the bump:
the bump hasnt changed size and doesnt seem to cause any pain or problem.
heres more photos of the bump:
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Re: Bump on back
Never seen anything like it before, but im agree with above, temps are too low which will cause problems at some point. But maybe its a deformity during her growing. If its not causing him pain or problems and she is pooing/shedding and eating well I wouldnt worry to much. Ovbi if it doesnt change in size or colour I would suggest going to your vets asap. Its like a over sized spot. Can animals even get spots ?
Re: Bump on back
I'd think it would be more likely to be a small cyst, though the placement is a touch worrying
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Re: Bump on back
When you feed her do you leave feeders in teh viv with her to eat at her choice or do you take them out after a half hour or so?
Also you absolutely need a probe thermomenter on the floor of your hot side to accurately measure floor temps since those are what's most important to leos is belly heat.
Sand is also not the best substrait as it could cause impaction and with a slight abrasion on the skin can lead to infection, cysts, and the like. There's a great thread in the housing section, a sticky, on proper housing for a leo that might be worth reading.
How active is your leo? does she ever get out of her viv to play or walk around or is she rarely ever taken out of the viv aside of the once a week you handle her? How's her sheds?
Who had her up until you got her, any idea of her standard of care with her previous owner? and did she come with ANY lump there, even a small one or did this develope after you took her in?
Also you absolutely need a probe thermomenter on the floor of your hot side to accurately measure floor temps since those are what's most important to leos is belly heat.
Sand is also not the best substrait as it could cause impaction and with a slight abrasion on the skin can lead to infection, cysts, and the like. There's a great thread in the housing section, a sticky, on proper housing for a leo that might be worth reading.
How active is your leo? does she ever get out of her viv to play or walk around or is she rarely ever taken out of the viv aside of the once a week you handle her? How's her sheds?
Who had her up until you got her, any idea of her standard of care with her previous owner? and did she come with ANY lump there, even a small one or did this develope after you took her in?
Last edited by Kermit on Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:23 am; edited 1 time in total
Re: Bump on back
I must say that it does concern me to say if it doesn't seem to affect his eating, shedding, pooing or cause him pain that you should just leave it alone. First off, it is very difficult to tell if they are in pain because they do not cry like us or scream out like we do and can't tell us that they are in pain.
I do not like the leave it alone and it will be ok thoughts because perhaps it is something that can be fixed if it is found sooner than later and if it diagnosed too late it will be too late to treat. I would advise him to be brought to the vets because we can only speculate at what it could be and I would not want to have icegoo not take her to the vets and she dies because she listened to us. This is just my opinion take it or leave it, I just do not believe in leave it alone and it will go away.
Cheers
I do not like the leave it alone and it will be ok thoughts because perhaps it is something that can be fixed if it is found sooner than later and if it diagnosed too late it will be too late to treat. I would advise him to be brought to the vets because we can only speculate at what it could be and I would not want to have icegoo not take her to the vets and she dies because she listened to us. This is just my opinion take it or leave it, I just do not believe in leave it alone and it will go away.
Cheers
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