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Post by lori.pabst Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:35 am

I have had my leopard gecko since nov. and he shedded last week, and hasnt ate since he shed. i know its normal but kinda worried since its been almost a week? any advice would be appreciated. he eats wax worms, meal worms and crickets, all with calcium.
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Post by Drip55 Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:42 pm

what type of calcium an how often do you feed wax worms
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Post by Kermit Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:30 pm

Hey there lori, if you could take a minute to full out our care questionnaire it would help us to see if there are any problems with your husbandry that could be causing the lack of eating http://www.leopardgeckoforum.com/t134-please-read-and-fill-out-with-your-health-questions
You are correct that shedding will put your leo off food for a while, my adult male usually won't eat a good meal for about 4 days after a shed so alot depends on the age of your leo, your husbandry etc. we'll be better equipped to answer after you full out the questionnaire.
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Post by lori.pabst Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:03 pm

I feed him waxworms as a treat. he mainly eats mealworms and crickets and superworms
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Post by lori.pabst Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:21 pm

About your leo:
- Sex: Male
- Age & Weight im not sure
- Morph (if you know)i think hyper tremer with carrot tail
- How long have you owned your leo: 3 mths
- Where was he/she obtained (Pet store, breeder, wild caught, etc.)pet store
- Is your leo wild caught or captive bred: captive

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo? every day
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe. not until a week ago after he shedded.
B) Fecals
- Describe-Do they look any different than normal: no
- When was the last time he/she went? before he shedded
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem/issue you are experiencing and how long it has been going on? almost a week now. he hasn't ate. he ate good up until he shedded.

Housing:
A) Enclosure? aquarium
- Size: 30 gallon
- Type (ex. glass tank, screen enclosure, tub kept) glass tank
- Type of substrate (sand, vinyl tiles, ceramic/stone tiles, etc.) i have paper towels in his cage
- Hides (how many, location and type (hothide, humid hide, regular hide etc.)he has a cave and heatbox
B) Heating
- What is your main heat source (heat bulbs, under tank heat mat etc) has heat mat, and uvb lights and day time and night time bulb**Please include the brand and size of your UTH if you use one**
- What are your cage temps (hot side and cool side)yes one side runs 92 degrees f and the other 80 degegrees f
- Method of regulating your heat source (thermostat, rheostat, light dimmer etc.)themostat
- What are you using to measure your temps (probe thermometer, infrared lazer tempo gun, stick on temp gauge, etc)probe
- Do you have any lights (describe type (red,blue, basking etc) and cycle duration)blue, on 12 hrs and off 12 hours
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females)0
- Describe health, or previous problems of cage mates0

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What are you feeding
- How often are you feeding your gecko and how much per feeding?everyday he eats 4 to 5 mealworms, once a wk a cricket and once a mth a wax worm
- How are you feeding (hand fed, tongs/tweezers, left in dish, ect)tongs in calcium to dust them then i pick up with tongs and put them on his paper towel
B) Supplements
- What calcium suppliment are you using (please include brand)minerall
- What multi vitimin are you using (please include brand)reptivite
-How are you implimenting your suppliment program (how often do you dust with each suppliment, do you leave calcium in the tank 24/7 etc.)i have a gatorade cap with calcium in tank 24 hrs a day, and i dust his food with calcium
- What are you gutloading your feeder insects with: flukers orange cubes and fluker highcalcium cricket
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Post by lori.pabst Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:27 pm

mine isnt very old id say 6 mths to maybe a yr. he has grown almost twice the size when i got him. thats the way he did to like 4 or 5 days after shedding he was like starving and ate. but this last time he walks up to his food smells them and walks away.
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Post by Kermit Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:26 am

Your husbandry doesn't look bad, only things I noticed is I would boost his temps a bit after such a large meal, he could be having a hard time digesting it. I'd bring him up to 94-96*F. The warmer temps well help him digest a bit better. Raising his core temperature will boost his metabolism which aides in digestion. You could also dab a little mineral oil, just a dab, on his nose to lick off. It's a laxative and will help move things along if he's a bit constipated from such a large meal (his shed).

Next thing is being younger, he will feel more secure with more places to hide. I would absolutely add a moist hot hide, a tupperware dish with a hole cut in the side or top (mine prefers his hole in the side), and moist paper towels inside well increase his humidity and aide in shedding. Then maybe another random hide somewhere. You have. Big tank, leos live in rocky craigs and crevaces. They're prey creatures in the wild, meaning a lot of larger animals make a meal of them, so they aren't really comfortable feeling overly exposed. Make sure he has a dish of water available 24/7 to ensure he's not dehydrated.

Another thing I notice is you are supplementing alot. Dust with calcium with D3 1 -2x a week, then use the multI vit 1-2x a week as well until he's a year old. After 1 year old dusting once a week with each will be fine. Hypervitaminosis (vitamin overdose) can cause a lot of problems from kidney failure to liver disease, gout and psudogout. No need to suppliment a sub adult every feeding.

Are you sure your leo is a male? Females usually have their first ovulation between 6-8 months old and ovulating can put them off food. Make sure its def. male. Its hard to figure gender before 6 months old. You can post a picture and we can help you figure it out or you can check this thread http://www.leopardgeckoforum.com/t1578-leopard-gecko-pore-close-up-sexing to se if you can figure it out on your own.

Also I wuld gutload your feeders with more fresh veggies. Apple, minus the seeds, oranges, carrots... pretty much any veggie scrap aside of spinach (it has a chemical that binds to calcium making it pretty much impossible to absorb), will work fine and add a natural source of vitamins to your leos diet. At 6 months old your leo may not be as enticed by small mealies. You might want to consider bumping up to superworms. Your leo can eat anything that is smaller around than the space between his eyes.

Hope that helps Smile
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Post by lori.pabst Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:34 am

Update::: Dexter is eating now . And yes im sure he is a boy. he has male parts..plus took him to vet. And the vet said as long as he was active and moving around , plus i did dab a drop of mineral oil on his nose but i dont think that helped. he just shedded yesterday .so he went a week and half not eating. i added a towel under his heat rock, (the heat rock has a thermal sock on it so it dont burn him.)and hes been eating good . now he wants to eat out of his bowl now for some reason. he wont eat off floor of tank now.
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Post by peach75 Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:57 am

I just wanted to let you know I think mineral all has minerals right? You need plain calcium for the tank.

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Post by peach75 Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:20 pm

I looked it up. Look at the ingredients of them all. They both have Vitamin D and calcium. I don't know about the reptivite. There is one with one without. Looks like Kermit was right, maybe too much calcium or vitamin D.

http://www.petguys.com/-091197700070.html?productid=-091197700070&channelid=PGRAB
http://www.petmountain.com/product/reptile-food-supplements/11442-504800/miner-all.html

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Post by lori.pabst Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:28 am

ya i leave a cap full in the tank and cut back on putting them in calcium everytime i feed him
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Post by lori.pabst Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:29 am

he ate 8 mealworms today with no calcium on them, should i only do it 2 or 3 times a week?
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Post by lori.pabst Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:10 am

thank you peach i will try that also, heres a better picture of dexter and about how long he is. id say he prob 5 to 6 in long. he has doubled in size since i got him in november. he only fit in palm of my hand then. I have also add a heat rock with a sock on it, and a regular towel under his cave. and he now has 3 places to hide, and moist box, a cave, and a tree thing he likes. and a big dish of water.i very seldom see him drink out of water bowl.but he does go potty between water dish and wall of tank. I will try to take picture of his tank.
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