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Post by samsleopardgeckos Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:23 am

Please dont look if you have a weak stomach pale

2weeks in a row i've found this in my snow corns tub, last thursday was the first time and then again today. Im trying to work out if its regurgetated food or undigested food in poo, can anyone tell me or help? he's feed every sunday 2pinkie mice and he's still acting like his normal self.

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Post by ozziesmum Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:55 pm

Hi it looks like regurge to me, if this is the second time this has happened you need to with hold feeding for 10 to 14 days from the day of the regurge to give the tummy time to settle down, during this time do a spot clean and water change daily. My snow does the same thing occassionally and the 10 - 14 days rule sorts it out.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:08 pm

Hiya, Thanks for replying. I'll try leaving the feeing till the following sunday instead of feeding him this sunday. its strange as it happened after i changed frozen food supplier so i was wondering if it was the food not being any good.
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Post by ozziesmum Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:19 pm

There might be a connection for the next feed can you possibly get a couple of pinkies from somewhere else to try. I found with mine that once she regurged she continued regurging until she had the no food rule as the tummy needs to re balance itself. I'm sure you will have but just for chance you might have missed something have you rechecked the warm end temps as this can cause a regurge but to be honest yours looks to be happening very soon after eating so tummy upset seems to me to be the most likely cause. I was also advised to put some reptoboost into the drinking water every couple of days as well.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:35 am

Well the other 2baby corns are doing ok on the same food but will try to get to the local reptile shop to get some different pinkies for him. thermostat that runs there rack is set to 86 as there are the corns, carpet pythons, a royal python, spotted & childrens python all in the same rack, i also clean them out everyday apart from the first 2/3days after feeding on sunday but i still change the water everyday. I dont really have the money to spend on getting any reptoboost right now(my other half just lost his job & i've been unemployed for 2yrs) but i have critical care formula, would that work?
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Post by Kermit Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:57 am

Critical care formula should do the job of boosting the electrolites and minerals like reptoboost would but I think the problem is settling down the stomach and restoring the guts natural flora, which would call for a dose of probiotics.

That looks like regurge to me as well. Something else to consider, after the 10-14 day fast, I would only feed a half a meal, so only 1 pinkey, make sure he keeps it down for at least the next 2 feedings (so that would be what 2 more sundays right?) then you can retry her regular sized feeding the following feeding. Hope he turns around for ya hon... good luck.
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Post by ozziesmum Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:11 am

Sam send me your address on PM and I'll pop you some reptoboost in the post as I've still got most of it left.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:54 am

Thanks Kel, next feed will be on 29th of this month if i wait 14days and i'll only give him 1pinkie instead of 2:)

Thanks Jane will PM you Smile
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Post by ozziesmum Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:17 am

Hi Sam no problem I'll post it out tomorrow so it should be with you on Saturday.

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Post by samsleopardgeckos Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:39 am

Update on Frosty ~ fed him a little pinky mouse last sunday which this time he didn't regurg it came out in his poo half a formed mouse on wednesday and the other half on friday so i called the vets and took him in on friday evening and a sample of the poo plus the pics i posted on here for the vet to look at and after examining him the vet has sent his poo off to be checked for Crypto so may have to have my little boy put to sleep Sad will let you guys know as soon as the lab results are back
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Post by ozziesmum Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:00 am

Oh Sam I am sorry to hear that, keeping everything crossed here for little Frosty and you.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:07 am

Thanks Jane, im praying it wont be crypto but all the signs are pointing to it Sad
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Post by ozziesmum Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:12 am

I so hope it all turns out well for you Sam really I do Crying or Very sad
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Post by Kermit Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:51 am

Aw sam that would suck... Sending good vibes it isn't crypto. Time to quarantine frosty far away from the rest of the herps (as I'm sure you know), total hospital procedures with everyone until the test comes back. I'm so sorry youre going thru all this hon, when it rains it pours. Maybe a little comfort in knowing the worm does have to turn, balance in the universe and all that so things will get better eventually, just be song hon *hugs*
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:21 am

Thanks Kel, he's been quarantined into the spare room well away from anything and gets cleaned out with F10 disifectant daily and i wash my hands with F10 gel when i leave the room and then go to the bath room and wash my hands again.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:41 am

Right the vets called me earlier to say the lab def suspect crypto but need another poo or regurg sample as first poo sample had to much urate and not enough poo so as soon as he pooes again i've got to rush another sample in to get sent to the lab.
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Post by Kodieh Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:33 am

That's very unfortunate, hopefully it turns out to be just a similar parasite. Sad
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Post by Kermit Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:52 am

Awww hon... Hoping for the best. Sending good vibes your way. If it is crypto does the vet have any concerns for any of your other herps? Wonder how this guy got it.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:30 am

Thanks Kel & Kodie Smile No the vet has no worries about our other snakes as they never come into contact with the regurg or poo and i always wash my hands in between cleaning out each tub.
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Post by Kodieh Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:27 am

Any news about the little guy?
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:45 am

not yet as he didn't do a good enough poo this week just gone so gave him 2pinkies on sunday so fingers crossed i'll have a poo to get tested on wednesday Smile
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:10 am

Hiya all, Update on Frosty
Unfortunately the vets phoned me earlier with bad news Frosty's fecal test came back positive for crypto and there's no cure so over the next few days i'll have Frosty put to sleep Sad
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Post by ozziesmum Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:17 am

Oh Sam I'm so sorry thinking of you. Crying or Very sad
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Post by kathstew Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:39 am

I'm really sorry, Sam ):
He had a good life with you.
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Post by gothicgurrrl Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:48 am

so sorry Sam Sad
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