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Post by nicky.collier1 Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:27 pm

Care Questionaire:

About your leo:
- Sex-NA
- Age & Weight-NA...
- Morph (if you know)-Tremper
- How long have you owned your leo-4 days
- Where was he/she obtained (Pet store, breeder, wild caught, etc.)- Petstore/adoption not sale
- Is your leo wild caught or captive bred-CB

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo-rarely
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how - started walking around with eyes fully closed, regued baby meal worms and even the slurry, i guess held down maybe half of both.


- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.-NA
B) Fecals
- Describe-Do they look any different than normal-black and white
- When was the last time he/she went-last night
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem/issue you are experiencing and how long it has been going on- extreamly skinny, was adopted, came to the LPS from the breeder with 4 tail kinks, tip of tail is just bone with scabbing over it, very skinny, not keeping food down, mostly refusing to eat or drink. will only drink if in a warm "bath"

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size- 5 gal
- Type (ex. glass tank, screen enclosure, tub kept)-tub
- Type of substrate (sand, vinyl tiles, ceramic/stone tiles, etc.)non slip drawer mat
- Hides (how many, location and type (hothide, humid hide, regular hide etc.)- hot and regular hides
B) Heating
- What is your main heat source (heat bulbs, under tank heat mat etc)
**Please include the brand and size of your UTH if you use one**- heat bulb for now (new leo)
- What are your cage temps (hot side and cool side)- 88-90 hot side, 85 cool side
- Method of regulating your heat source (thermostat, rheostat, light dimmer etc.)- temp gage, turn off lamp when temps get correct, turn on when temps start to drop.
- What are you using to measure your temps (probe thermometer, infrared lazer tempo gun, stick on temp gauge, etc) -round thermometer
- Do you have any lights (describe type (red,blue, basking etc) and cycle duration)- basking, 2 hours on, 1/2 hour off, for a total of 12 hours.
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females)-0
- Describe health, or previous problems of cage mates-NA

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What are you feeding-Baby and small meal worms
- How often are you feeding your gecko and how much per feeding?- 3 to 4 meal worms every 2 days
- How are you feeding (hand fed, tongs/tweezers, left in dish, ect) dish and hand feeding, refuses to eat from dish
B) Supplements
- What calcium suppliment are you using (please include brand)-Calcium spray (Zilla) and Calcium with D3 (reptocal)
- What multi vitimin are you using (please include brand) Vitamin sup Spray (Zilla
-How are you implimenting your suppliment program (how often do you dust with each suppliment, do you leave calcium in the tank 24/7 etc.) - Sprays go in water 2-3 squirts to the whole dish. D3 calci goes in a shallow dish and is left in tank
- What are you gutloading your feeder insects with-calcium powder in oatmeal, fresh fruits and veggies for the whole colony

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Post by nicky.collier1 Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:30 pm

She is still regurging, the slurry, half meal worms, even blended meal worms. today she regurged 4 hours after eating, the food was more of a grey/white before she ate it, came up brown, so i guess she got some nutrients out of it? I am really worried about her, yes she was a rescue but i only got her to try and save her life.

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Post by Tsuhei Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:05 pm

Sorry your leo is suffering...I can't really add anything except for the heating bit - you need a heat mat. Heat bulbs can irritate a leo's eyes and stress them out...and they need belly heat for digestion. Leo's don't really bask so the light is useless, really.

Wishing you the best of luck!
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Post by Mystic Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:36 pm

poor thing, the first thing you need to do is get a under tank heater, the lights stresses them out and dont give them the warmth from the ground they need to be able to digest their food, so get rid of the light and get a uth, then also get a digital probe thermometer, those are around $10 at pet stores, the round ones you stick on the wall of the tank really suck and dont measure the temp of the floor like you need, once you get a digital prob one you place the probe on top of the bottom of her tank where the heat mat is. also i would change the substrate to paper towels just because she is sick right now and paper towels are very easy to clean up. try and get her hot side up to 98 while she is sick and then to about 93 95 ish. make sure you have a hot side and cool side, you might want to update her to a 10 gal soon but no rush as long as she has the cool and hot side. you might want to take her into the vet if the heat mat doesn't help, she might be compacted or have something else. im sorry about your leo i hope it gets better! (and sorry i called it a she its just easier for me XD )
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Post by nicky.collier1 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:47 am

I found out it is a she. I used a led flashlight to see if she had any internal bleeding... none, but she has ovaries... and I found out it wasn't regurge, its pure liguid poo. She kept the food down last night and stayed on her basking rock all night. And yesterday she was switched to a 10gallon.

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Post by nicky.collier1 Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:48 am

And she went to the vet day before I got her.

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Post by nicky.collier1 Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:44 am

Update, thank you for your attempts at helping, She died last night. She was just to far gone when i adopted her.

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Post by Kermit Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:54 am

So sorry to hear your lil one didn't make it Sad RIP lil gal
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Post by Tsuhei Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:14 am

Sad! I'm sorry that she didn't make it. You did your best and that's what really counts.
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Post by kathstew Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:47 am

RIP little gal. I'm sorry. Sad
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Post by nicky.collier1 Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:51 am

I only adopted her to try and save her. I did the best I could. Just sad that I couldn't do more.

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Post by Mystic Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:08 am

im sorry, we seem to see this allot, it is very hard to save poor little leopard geckos after certain point but we are very grateful for people like you who try and save them. thank you for trying so hard to save such a small but precious life.
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Post by Karagain Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:40 am

Really sorry to hear this Sad But dont let this put you off Smile RIP lil girlie xxxxx
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:27 am

sorry to hear she didn't make it Sad RIP lil girl x
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Post by gothicgurrrl Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:12 am

RIP little one Sad
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Post by nicky.collier1 Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:11 am

Karagain wrote:Really sorry to hear this Sad But dont let this put you off Smile RIP lil girlie xxxxx



it wont put me off, i have my three adult males still. gunna just concentrate on making there large cage even bigger with more platforms. i turned a bookcase into there cage.

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