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Post by gothicgurrrl Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:09 am

I still don't get what pie-bold or whatever it's called is. Is it when an animals get randomwhite colouration on it? in rings and weird shapes? Smile
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Post by Jordan Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:12 am

kind of. Its just when part of an animals body has an overlying layer of white pigmentation, i think thats what it is.

I mean i know what it is, but i dunno what causes it (i mean genetics obviously) but you know what i mean, i odn't know what causes it scientifcally, in terms of why it happens.
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Post by gothicgurrrl Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:17 am

hahaha it's okay Smile I don't understand all the genetic talk anyway..

i think it would be great if one day, if you had the time of course, if you could make a quick guide to the basic genetics of leopard geckos.. Smile it would help me a lot.. i don't get all this 'het' stuff :P

I think I know what a pie bald is now though Very Happy at least I got that part :P
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Post by Jordan Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:36 am

haha me? write a genetics guide? i'm flattered but i doubt i'll ever get that much time lol. I have too much to do on the web constantly.

You know if you ever need any help though, or any questions, feel free to ask. Got a nice litte contact admin button in my signature now you can use for it haha.
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Post by Kermit Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:02 pm

Piebald is best described as a white base with blotches of color here and there sporadically. I believe it has to be less that 10-20% of the broken color.
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Post by Jordan Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:52 pm

Nah that is only piebald in its most extreme cases through line breeding.
Piebald starts off as a small white blotch on an animal and through breeding begins to cover the animals, like some of the crazy pied snakes you can get which are covered in white. But with corn snakes pied is still reasonably new and still growing.
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Post by gothicgurrrl Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:01 pm

Yeah I thought that too Jordan... because I seached pics of pie bald snakes last night.. and it looks as if colour pigment was just missing in patterns Smile is that why it occurs? I think that may be why.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:32 am

in royals they have 3different percentages of pied high white, medium white and low white pied which results in big price differences.
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Post by Jordan Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:55 am

Yeah in corns, the pied bit normally comes up from the belly.
And the price is determined on how far up it comes from the belly.

People sell them labelled 'High Expression Pied - Sided...'
or Low, or medium obviously.

you can even get pied horses! haha

*split to morphs and genetics*
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Post by Kermit Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:14 am

Just about all animals come in piebald coloration. American bulldogs, well all bulldogs come in pied, horses, cats, frogs, snakes, rabbits... pretty much anything that can produce a broken color pattern.
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Post by Kermit Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:23 am

piebald - motley: having sections or patches colored differently and usually brightly; "a jester dressed in motley"; "the painted desert"; "a particolored dress"; "a piebald horse"; "pied daisies"
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A piebald is an animal, such as a horse or ball python, that has a spotting pattern of large unpigmented (sometimes expressed as white) areas and normally pigmented patches
piebald - random spots of colour on a white background
www.lowchensaustralia.com/articles/dogcolours.htm

piebald - A white genetic pattern, typically more than is seen on a dog with Irish spotting G .
www.lethalwhites.com/glossary.html

piebald - English term for body color of white with black patches.
www.equisearch.com/resources/glossary/glossaryP/

piebald - a pinto of grey and white or black and white coloring.
www.tinyhoovesrescue.org/horse_terminology.htm

piebald - Pinto; in the New Zealand color study, an alpaca with white and black patches.
www.arrowhead-alpacas.com/glossary.htm

piebald - having white patches
www.tradewinds-studios.com/snaketamers/herpdictionary.html

Just to give you some "technical" info on Piebald Very Happy

Some images to go with it Very Happy
http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1003&bih=628&tbm=isch&oq=piebald+&aq=f&aqi=g10&q=piebald
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