Hi new leo keeper

Hi im new to leo keeping so wanted to introduce myself i have had my leo for 2 days now and am genuinly heppy as can be with my choice to wait so long before commiting to my chosen leo.
hope this pic comes out okay this is cleo
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sorry hope this is better

cool looking leo imo i would lose the sand i think you got a hypo or Patternless not sure buut good luck with him or her

hey drip yeah i am aware of the sand debate but it was housed in sand in the shop and it came with the set up i brought so will do for now and a plus note i came down last night after moving the viv to allow a proper night cycle as was worrried she wasnt getting that much darkness where she was and she was exploring for the first time sat on her hide then sleeping on her cool side so happy and woke to 2 missing crickets and a poo so definatly happy today

Hello Wolfbane

Cleo is very cute! Congrats on getting her! Looks like she is a super hypo tangerine carrot tail. But its hard to tell about the tangerine part as the picture is kinda washed out. If you can get a clearer picture then we can get a proper morph ID.

I would trade out the sand for paper towel or tiling as soon as possible. Sand impaction is a very real issue with leopard geckos. Leopard geckos don't live on sand in the wild, so why keep them on sand in captivity?

Congrats on getting her to eat!

I think you meant in captivity kathryn. Just because a pet shop had them that way does not mean that is whats best or proper. The forum is loaded with threads of leos coming from pet shops kept in sand with a myriad of problems now. Just like they recommend uv bulbs and red lights, all of which we know either are unneeded or can cause our leos undue stress. Simply placing your leo in a room with a window is all they need to establish their night cycle so additional lighting is unnecessary. This is just the pet shops uneducated way of getting you to spend more money on crap you don't need. Living on sands causes many issues, impaction being just one of them. Shedding problems, eye infections, skin irritation, humidity issues in your viv, gets in their ears... The list goes on and on... ANYTHING is better substrait than any type of particle substrait.

yes the shop did mention it but it came as a stater set up jobby he said it was my personal choice his at home are on paper and he told me i didnt need lights or anything fancy so i do kinda trust them had an issue today that sealed the swap my leos leg was poking under the hide i thought it was stuck so i lfted the hide to free her and she went into a crazy rage and bit the hide and ran about hissing , but since this she has been more active and exploring all her viv now not just hiding away hope she wasnt to stressed but is activly coming to the viv door when i come close now to check me out

this is hard to watch an this is the reason to never use [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] sand impaction is not something to play with lots of ppl use sand cus it looks cool well i bet the leos dont an i know sand impaction can happen over night imo i would dump the sand an put paper towels down

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cheers for the info mate but tbh im not gonna watch it watched one a few years ago when i first wanted a leo the self adhesive vinyl floortiles are they okay as in vapour from glue due to uth or shall i go for none adhesive

use slate tile

Kermit wrote:I think you meant in captivity kathryn.

Oops. Thanks for pointing that out, Kel. I changed it!

Wolf self stick vinyl tile are just fine. There is NO off gassing from the glue, consider the temps in your viv are no higher than your body temp, you're not going to melt the glue just by holding it. The glue on most don't start to even melt till around 120*F depending on manufacturer. Vinyl are suggested as a VOC safe alternative flooring to some of the other options out there. They heat really well and I (and many other leo owners I know) have used them for YEARS with no averse effects to our herps. For more info check out the housing section sticky on making the perfect leo set up. That will clear everything up for you.

Here's my guess to the morph. It's not just hypo, but super hypo (because there are no spots). I've never been good, however, with guessing Carrot Tails or Tangerines; but in my inexperienced opinion with those morphs it looks like a Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail to me, or SHTCT.

i will have some better pics in a few days shes getting very explortive during late evening and even came to the viv front today when she heard me speaking as i got in from work checked me and went back to sleep she is alsosleeping outside her hide now so am looking at trying to start presenting my hand into viv in new few days

IT IS a Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail Baldy. And although it looks a little washed out some of them are just that color

Learn something new everyday.

But it has spots on its head, so wouldn't it just be a Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail?

kathstew wrote:But it has spots on its head, so wouldn't it just be a Super Hypo Tangerine Carrot Tail?

Yup yup.

Fair enough......missed the little bitty spots, thanks for pointing that out Kathryn

Yes good point in deed