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Post by Badasprog Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:38 am

cor i feel like ive put loads of post on here! lol
I have a pregnant female patternless sunglow which we are sure is pregnant cause you can see the eggs, my bf and his family know a lot about breeding but we are having a debate on times. so i just want to ask a few questions

How long will the gecko be pregnant for (she is two weeks tomorrow)
How long will it take the eggs to hatch (ive heard 40-60 days)

Everyone is coming up with different week times and my care book says 2-4 weeks and 40-60days, but people online say different.. so whos right the book or online people?
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Post by mashcroft Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:14 am

From what I've read and picked up on here that first egg can take 2-5 weeks. After that they lay more regularly about every 2 weeks until they finish the clutch.

Incubation time depends on temperature. Lower temperature equals longer incubation times, higher temperature equals shorter incubation time.

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Post by Badasprog Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:16 am

This is her first egg this year, shes had 2 before i knew her. what temperture for incubation do you recommend for healthy geckos?
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Post by asianpersuasion Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:58 am

Leopard Gecko sex is temperature dependent. Its not a proven science but most all breeders have had good results with temperature sexing there leopard geckos.
This is just a general guide line not guaranteed. So it depends on if you want females or males.

78f to 82f (mostly female)
83f to 88f (a mix of males and females)
89f to 90f (mostly male)
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Post by Kermit Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:39 pm

Badasprog wrote:This is her first egg this year, shes had 2 before i knew her. what temperture for incubation do you recommend for healthy geckos?

This sounds like something your bf and his experienced family should have been able to tell you imo... honestly I'm not the type that likes seeing inexperienced hobbiests breeding or taking on already bred animals with out knowledge of the very basic husbandry needs required. I'm sorry but this is just a pet peeve of mine. You should educate yourself irst... then if there's something you aren't clear on, then ask .

Sorry... rant over
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Post by Badasprog Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:32 pm

they do know most stuff, just not the egg hatching time, that's why ive come here to check im doing it right, my bf said i can keep them if they stay alive so i want to know as much as i can before they hatch so i can be the best gecko mum Smile
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Post by Kodieh Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:56 am

Approximately 35 days is the average, 40 is a beginning cause for concern.
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Post by Badasprog Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:39 am

Thankss she laid one egg this afternoon Smile
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Post by Mardy Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:45 am

The only thing that concerns me is that in another thread you had Stevie in a small box inside the tank to save electricity, and said you have 4 horses to look after so you didn't have the funds to do much for geckos. If you are wanting to hatch more geckos, I don't know if you'll be able to provide proper care for the hatchlings.

I'm only basing this off what you said in another thread, if I'm wrong I apologize. But understand that incubating for more eggs and caring for more hatchlings will only cost more money and space. If you had difficulties keeping what you have and give them properly housed, you may want to rethink hatching more.

Plus if it's another Enigma, it's like bringing in another special needs children when you are already strapped of cash and room for the existing ones.

Just a friendly advice. Smile
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Post by Badasprog Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:57 am

Think i may have confused youstevie was in a smaller box inside his own tank and yes i dont have much money because of the horses (£400 each a month!) But stevie is mine and instead of paying my bfs mum electricty i buy him food because he eats different to the female (mella) my bf pays for mellas food and he also gotba job so now he has money to get food extra hides and plants blah blah

We are also puttin the temp to get a female so hopefully it will be friends with mella and share. Im not getting my hopes up coz it may not even hatch but im round bfs most nights and i spend my time cleaning the vivs feeding and keeping the geckos happy. I think ill be fine once its hatched i just get worried about stuff which is why i joined and i put this thread on to gain more tips about eggs.
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Post by Kermit Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:45 am

You can't put a hatching with an adult leo like mella. Leos don't want friends, there solitary creatures, and mella will likely bully the smaller leo, possibly even kill it. Friends are just competition for resources in another leo's eyes. Like mardy said... there's a lot of expense and space needed for raising eggs.

You won't produce just 1, you're looking at about 15-20 eggs, how many are you willing to incubate in hopes to get 1 possible female, then grow it out for 6 months to even be sure on gener. Temp sexing is often no guarantee of gender. Then you'll likely want to raise 2 to increase chances 1 is a female, now that's housing for 4 leos and food as well. It builds fast... there's a great thread in the breeding section called questions to ask yourself before breeding, or similar to that. Might be worth a read
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Post by Badasprog Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:17 pm

Yeah i've read up on that about the growing, sexing, and the amount of eggs. I highly doubt this egg with stay alive from what i read incubating is a hard thing to do and everything has to be just right for the egg. As for the housing, we have two spare tanks and two heat mats, they are quite big tanks so we could split it up if we have more space and i would go out and get some more heating supplies.Also my friend and my aunt said that if i cant care for them enough they will take them and they both are very well educated about loepard geckos. I'm sure all of you were at my level at once. and i'm pretty sure you all learnt about it and also didnt have suvivors and blah blah so you know.. i will learn, and im pretty sure i can learn enough in 30-60 days when the egg is likely to hatch. And i wont let my geckos breed again as i dont want anymore special needs geckos.
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Post by Kermit Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:06 am

Don't forget Lauren you also have to make it thru the incubation period before you can even worry about hatchling care. Make sure to read up on incubation techniques as well thumbs up
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Post by Badasprog Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:08 am

Is there a thread in here to help? Can you send me a link?
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Post by Kermit Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:18 am

Honestly hon we can't spoonfeed you everything... if you're seriously interested in doing what's best by your leos you need to do some research on your own as well to see different points of view and different techniques. just do a google search. To my knowledge no one has posted a thread about incubating but I could be wrong. You could try the forum search feature or spend some time in the breeding forum and search manually. The info you find a long the way will be very useful.
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Post by Badasprog Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:05 pm

alright. sorry for being interesting in trying to give this egg a good home. if you think im that unexperinced ill just toss it.
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Post by Kermit Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:18 am

I never said that you'd not give it a good home, what I said was that you need to educate yourself before taking on breeding, that there's a lot involved and often it ends in failure. We're meerly asking you to read, research some things for yourself, THEN come to us if you read something that is confusing you. I went thru all 6-8 pages of the breeding forumy esterday and it is loaded with tons of beginner information about starting breeding the right way. if this is truly something you have a passion for then you should welcome the opportunity to increase your knowledge about it. I know you didn't just jump on the back of a horse one day and go off show jumping the next right? It took time, learning, and experience before you could.

As far as your leo goes... laying 1 egg generally isn't a good sign that it is fertile from my understanding of things. See if she lays another clutch in 2-3 weeks from that last egg, then that will tell you the chances that the breeding was successful. Have you put the egg in an incubator yet? Did you amrk which side was up when she laid it? How does it look now after a few days? If you do just end up "chucking" the egg, be sure to put it in the freezer first just in case it is viable, you wouldn't want a leo incubating and hatching out in the warm conpost of a trash heap somewhere.
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Post by Badasprog Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:03 am

Actually i was just placed on a horse and had to learn myself, i'm quite a quick learner so i get the hang of things quick. The egg is in an incubator and i've been terribly ill so havent gone to liams to check the egg (he was ill too) i shall give him a text and ask him to look at the egg, we did mark it but it isnt very visable as we caught the egg literally within hours of it being laid as mella trashed her cage to bury the egg, it was really soft and squiwgy when we first saw it and im not sure on colours ill check with liam then ill take your advice and look through the posts and see if anyone has put colours
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