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Post by Jordan on Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:11 am

So far i have three females ovulating.

And one of them has bred, and i can see small eggs in her stomach, but yet for some reason they aren't growing... for some reason she isnt developing her eggs or growing them?
i think.

Any idea's why?

I also have a female that doesn't want to accept any male despite the fact she is ovulating... she seems very territorial.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:01 am

is the female with the small eggs eating enough? could it be possible she knows the eggs are no good and is re-absorbing them slowly like i had happen with my girl we talked about?

have you ever breed from the territorial female before? i had a giant female that was the same and in the end i sold her as she rejected and beat up every male i put with her.

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Re: Few female Problems.

Post by Jordan on Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:43 am

she's a big fat girl and probably eats the most out of all of them.
there is a chance they are infertile and when she mated, it was a very quick, like ten second act. So maybe the job wasnt done properly. however ive tried re introducing and she isnt receptive to the male anymore.
And if she is reabsorbing them, then it is VERY VERY slowly.

i personally havent bred her yet, but when i bought her, the breeder said she was possibly gravvid and a proven breeder.
But she was under 50g when i got her so i dont know how they claimed proven breeder, unless they bred her young.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:19 am

i dont know how long it took for my girl to re-absorb the eggs she had surgery to remove, how long has she been carrying the eggs? i know this may sound strange but are you sure they are eggs? as i've confussed the fat pads in there bellys before with eggs lol(i had only just started breeding tho when i done that)

strange but then so was that female of mine that would mate with any male, i've had females breed at 35grams and produce healthy eggs/babies but i know alot of people wont breed if the girl is under 50g.

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Re: Few female Problems.

Post by Jordan on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:54 am

she mated a month ago and i spotted the eggs not long after.
And yeh they are definitely eggs. Well, small eggs so maybe just follicles. But either way, she is not growing them at all despite having mated and ovulating and what not.

Personally i wont breed much under 50g, but i dont completely disagree with it.
i tried her with a male overnight, and they didnt have a proper fight when i first introduced them but they were abit annoyed and anxious with each other. But they didnt fight and calmed down thankfully so i left them in overnight.
I think i may have finally found a male she is happy with. She may have just been picky. and only wants the best for her children haha.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:06 am

that is a odd one, i've been looking through my books to see if i can find anything on eggs not growing and so far i've not managed to find anything, but if i do i'll let you know.

i dont have any breeding female under 50gs now.
you might be lucky with her now then if she didn't beat the crap out of the male last night then. and wouldn't any mother want only the best male to father her children lol.

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Re: Few female Problems.

Post by Jordan on Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:48 am

Yeh ive had a look myself in my books and not found anything either.
obviously the first thing that comes to mind is egg bound but, they are small ungrown eggs and i dont see how she can be egg bound with them.

Well i checked up on them and she didnt have any bite marks or anything on her neck, so i dont think they mated but they are definitely getting on a lot better now, so i think im gonna give them another night or two and keep checking for any mating signs.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:58 am

its really annoying when you cant find any info on problems that your having, the easyiest way to find out if she is egg bound is to get a xray but thats not cheap altho at least you'd know for def.

thats good to hear, maybe over the next few nights she'll let him mate with her

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Post by Jordan on Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:59 am

ive been thinking about it, but im still researching into other stuff before splashing out lol.

haha yeah hopefully, maybe all she wants is a romantic dinner beforehand.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:03 am

i dont blame you for researching first as i'd do the same before paying out for something you may not need in the first place.

yeah or maybe she doesn't like having them do the job then go lol

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Post by Jordan on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:04 am

Well, a good way of researching is to ask on a forum... shame there isnt many members to answer Sad haha.

hahaha, wants him to stick around and provide for the children haha.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:10 am

yes it is a good way to research, in time im sure there will be lots of members to give advice and answers

yep she doesnt want a one night stand, she wants a lasting relationship lol

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Post by Jordan on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:15 am

well im sure eventually we can get plenty of members, we just have to be willing to wait Sad ... tut... waiting.

haha good on her i suppose.

Anyway thanks for all your help Sam. hopefully she'll breed soon and i wont have to worry about it at all.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:21 am

yeah it just might take some time as most go on R**K but i dont like it on there lol, no1 likes waiting but when you've just started we dont have anychoice.

you wont be saying that if she does the same every year

Thats ok always happy to help when i can

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Post by Jordan on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:28 am

I dont like it either.
Sorry Sam, i just have to mention that other forums arent supposed to be mentioned. Im not bothered at the moment whilst there is barely any members but just have to let you know.

thats true, might get annoying. Mind you she is only a mack snow het pat so she'll be going after this year prob.
just using her to make some SS enigmas.

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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:33 am

thats ok i should of thought of that when i wrote it .

awww bless her, hopefully she produce you nice SSenigmas this year.
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Post by Jordan on Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:57 am

right so the enigma and the moody girl didnt mate, well it didnt look like itm there were no signs.
so she went with another male to produce some super snows but not SS enigma's. And they got to it straight away. So i dunno... she's a weird one.
But she has mated now thankfully.

Just out of interest, if she DID mate with the male beforehand, and now she has mated with the second one, what knock on effects could there be?
im 95% positive she didnt mate with the MS enigma but i thought i would ask in case they had?
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:15 am

well glad to hear she's mated with someone lol

what morph is she and what morphs are the males she has been with?

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Post by Jordan on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:18 am

She is a MS and she was first put with MS Enigma, and then mated With MS het bb.
No albino crossing though.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:24 am

im sure but i will ask a breeder friend of mine and see if he knows and let you know when i hear back from him.

p.s i did send him a link to here but he hasn't made it on here yet due to sorting out orders for the hamm show

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Post by Jordan on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:29 am

can you clarify please, what are you sure of? and what are you asking him haha. Sorry Sam, just didnt get ya lol.

Thanks for sending him a link though, i hope he makes it on.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:40 am

sorry Jordan must oh missed a word out lol
i ment to say im not sure what they will produce.
and im asking my friend what they will produce if both males managed to mate with her.

thats ok & he should make it on here eventually

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Post by Jordan on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:54 am

Well if she has the ability to produce offspring with either of the genes then i have really messed up.
Because if she produces an SS i won't know whether the genes will be from the MS enigma and therefore just an SS or if the genes have come from the MS het BB, then the SS will be 50% ph BB, but i won't be able to tell.
If you get what i mean there lol.

As i say im pretty certain that they didnt mate (MS Enigma) so im sure she will only produce offspring of the second males genes.

Thanks for your help Sam, i look forward to meeting this friend?
If you don't mind me asking, who is it? im just wondering as i may ave heard of him. or his site or whatever.
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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:17 am

yeah i do get what you mean.

well unless she produces something really radom then you should be ok lol

thats ok, my friend is Jakub of Leopard-Gecko-Cz i got alot of my leos off him and when i had no idea about genetics or what would produce what i used to send him pics of the babies that hatched and tell him the parents and he'll always get back to me and let me know.

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Re: Few female Problems.

Post by Kermit on Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:39 am

Jordan wrote:So far i have three females ovulating.

And one of them has bred, and i can see small eggs in her stomach, but yet for some reason they aren't growing... for some reason she isnt developing her eggs or growing them?
i think.

Any idea's why?

I also have a female that doesn't want to accept any male despite the fact she is ovulating... she seems very territorial.

For the territorial part have you tried bringing the female to the male's cage insted of him to her? This often works with cage aggressive rabbits. Also leaving her in his cage overnight and him in hers can make her more accepting. Being in there overnight and smellinghis "maleness" can make her moer receptive.

As far as the female slow to develop her eggs, is she a first time breeder? How are you supplimenting her?

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