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Post by strech on Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:26 pm

so my lg has only poop just the white part for about a week now with one regular poop in there on one day and has cut back eatting alot. from 2 supers a day to just 2 this week.

nothing changed in the food or anything and temps and husbandry are all good

Is this something to be worried about or not?


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Re: not really pooping

Post by Kermit on Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:56 am

Any time theres a change in your leos bodily habits it should be cause for some concern. Not pooping can mean many things. Please fill out the care questionnaire so that we can make sure there aren't any husbandry issues that could be adding to the problem.

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Re: not really pooping

Post by strech on Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:51 am

About your leo:
- Sex\f
- Age & Weight almost a yr i believe\46grams a week ago
- Morph (if you know)\albino
- How long have you owned your leo\2 months
- Where was he/she obtained (Pet store, breeder, wild caught, etc.)
- Is your leo wild caught or captive bred\pet store\captive bread

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo\once a day
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how no
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.no
B) Fecals
- Describe-Do they look any different than normal\no poop just the white part
- When was the last time he/she went\everyday as normal
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem/issue you are experiencing and how long it has been going on\no poop and not interested in food

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size3 cubic feet
- Type (ex. glass tank, screen enclosure, tub kept)wood\glass
- Type of substrate (sand, vinyl tiles, ceramic/stone tiles, etc.)slate tile
- Hides (how many, location and type (hothide, humid hide, regular hide etc.)2 hide and 1 most-hot and cold
B) Heating
- What is your main heat source (heat bulbs, under tank heat mat etc) **Please include the brand and size of your UTH if you use one**uth
- What are your cage temps (hot side and cool side)hot side 91-97 cold 78-82
- Method of regulating your heat source (thermostat, rheostat, light dimmer etc.)light dimmer
- What are you using to measure your temps (probe thermometer, infrared lazer tempo gun, stick on temp gauge, etc)temp gun
- Do you have any lights (describe type (red,blue, basking etc) and cycle duration)
C) Cage mates0
- How many (males, females)
- Describe health, or previous problems of cage mates

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What are you feeding superworms
- How often are you feeding your gecko and how much per feeding?was once a day 2-3 supers-now only 3 in last week
- How are you feeding (hand fed, tongs/tweezers, left in dish, ect)feed tongs
B) Supplements
- What calcium suppliment are you using (please include brand)repti calcum w/d3
- What multi vitimin are you using (please include brand)
-How are you implimenting your suppliment program (how often do you dust with each suppliment, do you leave calcium in the tank 24/7 etc.)leave in tank
- What are you gutloading your feeder insects with\ carrots \letcue
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Post by Kermit on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:04 am

91-97 is a pretty big fluctuation in temps. You might want to consider getting something that will keep it at a more consistant temp. For leos that seem to be having problems I usually like to recommend keeping them around 95-96*F for optimum digestion and core temperature regulation.

depending on your lighting, humidity and temps your leo could be brumating. Changes in any of those 3, esp. all 3 together can make your leo go into brumation. Just passing urate means that she really is only ingesting fluids. What color is the urate? A nice pure-ish white or yellow-ish? When Eros brumated he went from eating about 3 supers every other day to eating about 3-4 every 2 weeks or so. Just keep offering them on a regular schedule and he should take what he wants if it is brumation. If there's nothing in his past husbandry such as particle substrait that makes you concerned about obstruction he should pick up with warmer temps and increased daylight as the season changes.

It could also be food boredome. If you've had them on supers for some time with out any changes they could just want something different. You could try getting a few crix and see if that stimulates the appetite.

Being female around 1 year of age she could also be coming into ovulation. We're gertting into the breeding season so see if you can notice any pink spots on her belly or any egg formations that might indicate ovulation. If you can get a clear pic we can likely help you with this. Usually it works best just putting her in a clear dish and taking a picture from below. They don't tend to squirm as much Smile Ovulation will impact appetite as well.

I'd mist her tank every few days to make sure the humidity stays up and to aide in sheds. If she is still not eating and you notice she is losing weight you might want to take her in for a vet exam. I'd say get a fecal done but if nothing's going in nothing's coming out obviously Smile You're in kind of a holding pattern to see which way your leo goes at this point. Keep track of her weight and if you start noticing her losing a good deal of weight to the point of where it's obvious them you likely have more going on than simple brumation. She could possibly be egg bound, but that is a big if.

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Re: not really pooping

Post by strech on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:14 am

ok well do with the temps and yes the white part is very white no yellow so i am sure she will be fine i did try to offer her some Phoenix worms and she didn't seem to found of them well didnt eat any of them


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Post by Kermit on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:18 am

There's a good chance she's ovulating then. It's good the urate was nice and white, at least we know she isn't dehydrated then. Just keep offering the food and checking her belly often, plus monitor her weight for any significant changes.

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Post by strech on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:33 am

i just checked her weight and she hasn't lost any so thats good and her tail is still nice and thick so im sure she will be good.Ill see if i can get a pic over her belly for you to see sometime tonight got to take Junior to the park for the day now that its nice here in the city. no more cold and snow!!
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Post by strech on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:16 am

here a couple of shots of her i took its the best i could do for now so i hope you can tell.



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Re: not really pooping

Post by Mardy on Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:54 am

She's ovulating, nothing to worry about Smile

You can see it in the first pic, upper-right.

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Post by strech on Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:43 pm

thanks mardy i just grab 5 small crickets from the store and she gobbled them down real quick. How long does the ovulating last?
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Post by Mardy on Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:24 pm

Most likely off and on through mid-summer, during which she'll have erratic eating behavior.

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