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HELP! Very sick Leopard Gecko! Please help me!

Post by HomeworkCrazy on Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:08 pm

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Female Leopard Gecko
8 years old
small for age
one broken foot-her front right

STORY..
She isn't my Gecko. I have been watching her for the High School who hasn't properly taken care of her. I have informed the teacher that she is ill and I know that the diet and habitat provided for her isn't the best. I am aware of all this. Just please help me get her better. She is staying at my house until she gets well or dies. The teacher has given me permission to do whatever I deem necessary to her. My family will not take her to a vet and I cannot afford to do it either. The teacher will also not take her to a vet. I am listing the previous habitat and her current one.

~PREVIOUS HABITAT~
5 gallon tank
green Reptile carpet
aquarium is stocked with crickets at all times
normal temperature is 78 degrees Farehnheit
calcium dustings on crickets for one week per month
no vitamin dustings supplied
no Male Leopard Geckos around
fresh water supplied regularly
dry cave
crickets fed commercial cricket food and Fluker's water cubes and dirty habitat (dead crickets and poop everywhere)

~PRESENT HABITAT~
20 gallon tank
UVB light during day
quiet
80-90degrees Fahrenheit at all times
dry cave
moist hide
sand for substrate (i am aware that this can cause impaction; at the moment, it doesn't matter, she doesn't even try to eat; when I notice that she is trying to eat on her own, I will replace the sand with paper towels)
water supplied at all times with Pedialyte
aquarium stocked with 3 baby crickets all day
bread provided so crickets don't eat her
calcium supplement provided for each feeding
no other Leopard Geckos around
crickets receiving calcium, vitamin-fortified meals and good habitat

HER SYMPTOMS ARE...
extremely swollen belly
black discoloring on belly
hard round lumps in belly
so swollen she can hardly move
hasn't eaten on her own in 2 weeks
hasn't pooped on her own in 2 weeks
not drinking water
thin tail
shallow breathing-getting a lil better
no appetite
tries to poop but unable to without help
found blood in excretion yesterday
very thin so far
she didn't eat for about 2weeks but she ate yesterday with my help
she didn't poop for about 2weeks but she pottied yesterday with my help

WHAT I AM DOING AT THE MOMENT...
keeping her over a medium-heat heating pad
soaking her twice a day in warm water for 10 minutes
handling her as lil as possible
force-feeding her 2 baby crickets (one in morning, one at night (calcium supplement on crickets)) (i'm being super careful not to hurt her-she accepts the crickets with a bit of a fight but when i get them in her mouth she swallows them)
feeding her about .6ml of unflavored yogurt twice a day (once in morning, once at night) (she really likes the yogurt-appears to be her favorite thing to eat right now)
placing unflavored Pedialite in water (mixture is 1/4 Pedialite and rest 3/4 water)
placing a drop of mineral oil in mouth twice a day (one in morning, one at night)
working on getting some small hornworms, small silkworms, or small waxworms for her to eat instead of baby crickets
giving her .16ml of water and Pedialte (mixture is 1/4 Pedialyte and rest 3/4 water)

I'm worried for her, I know she is very sick; I know she should see a vet. I just want her to get better. She seems to be getting a little better, ever so slowly, but she is still huge! At first we thought it was infertile eggs about 3 weeks ago, but she hasn't laid them! Then we moved on to the thought of parasites, but her stomach has round things in it. Please help! I'm willing to do just about anything to save her life. I already wake up an hour earlier than I need to just to feed her in the morning before I go to work; am losing sleep.... Please help me save this poor baby...


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Re: HELP! Very sick Leopard Gecko! Please help me!

Post by lunarrah on Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:38 pm

I have a sick gecko too, her name is Lily. I am in a similar situation as your, she is sick due to other peoples neglect. I truly hope my Lilly makes it, I think if she does I am going to rename her Smiley since her marking on her head make two different smiley faces. I posted for help too these are some of the replies I got I hope they help.

-I'd keep her in a simple set-up for now for ease of cleaning. Remove the sand and use paper towels as a substrate, minimum hides.
-Take her to the vet I am pretty sure she wont get better if you have had her that long without help.
-Since she is not eating on her own you may want to consider mixing up slurry to give her a boost. Here's a recipe from Golden Gate Geckos, it's a very popular slurry used to aid recovering geckos.




GOLDEN GATE GECKOS SLURRY:

This slurry was developed years ago when I was trying to rehabilitate sick geckos. It has helped save the lives of many geckos, and is being recommended and used by many veterinarians and Universities now. Keep in mind that this slurry IS NOT medicine, nor will it cure anything! It is designed to be used as nutrition for anorexic geckos that are off-food and being treated by a veterinarian for a diagnosed clinical disease or illness. Here is my recipe for the mixture:


In a blender, combine:

1 small can Hill's A/D pet food (available at most vets)

1 jar baby food squash

¼ cup Ensure (not chocolate)

¼ cup Pedialite

Contents of 2 capsules Milk Thistle (herbal supplement, liver purifier, found at most drug stores)

¼ tsp. each calcium powder and herp vitamin powder

3-5 X-large handfuls of mealworms, added slowly while mixture is blending

Puree all ingredients until completely smooth, adding mealworms until mixture is the consistency of milkshake. Pour into ice cube tray and freeze. Store frozen cubes in a zip-lock bag in the freezer until ready to use, then thaw out 1 cube at a time in the empty baby food jar at room temperature. Keep thawed slurry in the refrigerator for up to 3-4 days, washing the jar and lid thoroughly after each batch.

Using this mixture, draw a full 1ml dropper (eye dropper type) for adults, and 1/2 dropper for juveniles, and place a drop on the gecko's nose, and avoid plugging the nostrils. Be patient and do not force-feed! The gecko will lick it off its nose, and as it does, slowly squeeze out a little at a time as the gecko licks it. Be careful not to let the gecko choke, allowing for time to swallow. Most geckos love this food, and will lap it up. Patience is a key factor!



I am taking my Lilly to the vet tuesday it was the soonest appointment I could get. I hope the gecko your caring for gets better.


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Re: HELP! Very sick Leopard Gecko! Please help me!

Post by Mardy on Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:42 pm

Unfortunately you need vet care. If you post some pictures of her belly we can maybe take a look. But from what I read, the gecko requires vet care.

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Re: HELP! Very sick Leopard Gecko! Please help me!

Post by Kermit on Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:55 pm

Your girl sounds either egg bound or loade with parasites from those horribly kept crickets. Either one is going to require vet care. Worms will need meds prescribed by the vet and egg bound usually requires surgical intervention. if you could post some clear pix of her belly that would help alot. I agree that you absolutely have to get her off the sand and on some clean paper towels. Its like a hospital set up, you want it as sanitary as possible. This will also stop her from eating mouthfuls of sand just becaue when animals are sick they eat the oddest things in an attempt to settle their bellies or barf. You also want to make sure there is a lay box, moist echo earth inside for your lay medium. If she doesn't have a place to lay she'll just keep holding into those eggs if thats the problem. She could be beyond the poin of laying because of her previous ill care and may be in the proces of reabsorbing the eggs. Go real easy with the yogurt as leos aren't designed to tolerate lactose well. You'd do better getting a powdered probiotic suppliment that is meant for herps. I'd also stop force feeding her. Thats very stressful for the leo. She can go quite e a while with out food and do fine. Make the slurry as best you can and dab that on her nose instead. Blood in the poo is an indicator of parasites usually, again going to need a fecal at a vet and meds prescribed as there us no home remedy to cure this and it will kill her if it is parasites left untreated. Elevate her temps to a minimum of 93-96*F. She can thermoregulate and being Ill you want to provide a good hot zone. Seeing as how she was way too cold before she could be constipated, soaking in warm baths will help alleviate that as well as the mineral oil. just curious but howd you"help her poo? The black spot is likely her liver.

You have a lot going on with this girl. It sucks no one will help her with a vet visit. Maybe you can take a collection from the kids in the class, if theirs approx. 25 kids in the class a donation of about 3$ each would likly cover her bill. Hell take up a school wide donation if the principal will allow. People NEED to take responsibility for this animal, they did this to her, they have a moral obligation to fix it. Pets, even classroom pets, are not disposeable and they can actually be cited by animal enforcement for animal cruelty for neglect and failure to provde vet care to a sick animal. Thank you for doing what you are to try and fix her. Hope ewe can help and get those pix up asap if you can.

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Post by HomeworkCrazy on Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:20 am

I removed the sand last night as I discovered it was getting everywhere, in her mouth, ears, butt.
I will work on getting some Echo Earth or some other substrate, would moss work? for a nesting box.
Would $75 cover a vet bill? Even after the diagnose her and get her medication and all? I just want to make sure we have enough.
There is also a drive to get to a decent vet. Maybe about an hour or so I think? I live in York, Nebraska and the nearest reptile specialist is in Lincoln. We'd have to drive the Gecko there. The teacher visits Lincoln weekly so I could maybe see about taking her with and I'd drive with him or something; I figure I should go since I know I'll be the one shooting medicine and crap into her every day until she gets better.
I help her go potty by rubbing around on her rear with a warm papertowel for a few minutes. She usually poos a little bit. About 2-3 small beads of white goop; they are smaller than a pencil eraser. I know that is not normal but that is about all I can ever get her to do.
I will stop force-feeding her but I will continue to leave 3crickets (bread and potatoes for them) in her aquarium in case she decides to gain an appetite. I will also continue to wiggle crickets in front of her face to persuade her to eat, but I will not force them on her anymore.
I am unsure if my mother will buy all the necessary items for the Gecko slushi but I could try to pay for some of it if you guys really think that stuff will help the Gecko a lot. I will have to get the teacher to order some mealworms.

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Re: HELP! Very sick Leopard Gecko! Please help me!

Post by Kermit on Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:51 am

You can use superworms as well instead of mealies in the slurry, you can check local pet shops or bait stores. They usually carry a variety of feeder worms. The visit cost is goingto depend on the vet used. Office visit and meds can add up fast. Meds would likely be batryl and panacure which aren't outrageous for such small doses so id like to say 75$ would be enough but I can't. You can always call the vet for an approximate quote. The white stuff you've gotten out of her is urate, like leo urine, not exactly poo so I suspect she is likely blocked up. Continue with the warm baths, a couple a day is what I would do, and small dabs of mineral oil on her nose, its a laxative and could help move things along. Since she hasn't eaten regualrly and been in low temps she's likely suffering a bit of gi stasis which is where the gi stops working from lack of food but this is reversable once temps are right and she starts eating again. I have also heard that for some reasons as soon as people take their sick leo for the car ride to the vet they give a whopper of a poo. Don't know how or why this has worked but could be worth a try at this point. Kathryn hopefully reads this thread as she has a great link for a vet locator so hopefully she'll chime in with that to see if there's a vet closer than lincoln. Good for you for getting her off the sand. It can dehydrate her as well as the other problems you've already seen. Eco earth would be better than moss from what I hear, sme leos will eat som moss and get blocked whereas eating a little eco earth would be much easier to pass tham a wad of moss. Id put a dish of pure phospherous free calcium in her viv for her to lap as she needs so were not compounding problems. Multi vit once a week to be sure she's getting the vit D for absorbtion of calcium. You're in a tough spot hon, I wish there were more we could do but this really does require a vet... sorry. Hopefully you can get it all worked out soon.

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Post by HomeworkCrazy on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:52 pm

Thanks for your help. I convinced the teacher to take her to the vet, and she is on her way to the vet this morning! Now although he is taking her to the vet, it is to see what the price will be; if the price is going to be decent, he said he will do it!
I hope she will be okay! I love that Gecko so much! I hope she doesn't have egg binding because people think that will require surgery and I know surgery will be expensive. Pray for good news please! I'll keep you guys posted!
Also, just in case the teacher didn't want to pay some of it, I have already added up about $40 in donations for her! Anyways, pray for good news.
She will be coming back here after he vet visit. So I will keep you guys posted about what they think it is and all that stuff.

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Post by Kermit on Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:30 am

Fingers crossed for a good outcome.

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Post by HomeworkCrazy on Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:48 pm

hah i'm a little slow but i got a picture uploaded! Twisted Evil

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Post by HomeworkCrazy on Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:58 am

sorry guys... bad news... the reptile specialist tried to diagnose her but he couldn't without x-rays, which the teacher wouldn't pay for/allow to be paid for for whatever reason
with his physical checkover he couldn't diagnose it as he seen 3different things that could be wrong with her and he couldn't properly diagnose her without an x-ray
the teacher was however, kind enough to have her euthanized... poor baby... i will miss Rango dearly... she didn't deserve that...

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Post by samsleopardgeckos on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:12 am

Awwww sorry to hear that hun Sad RIP Rango xx

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Post by Karagain on Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:22 am

Awww I'm so sorry Sad x rip rango! Xxxx

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Post by LeopardGex on Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:46 am

Sorry, RIP Rango

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Post by Kermit on Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:51 am

So sad. Hopefully she takes this as a sad lesson learned. You faught for her as hard as you could. Good for you. RIP lil rango

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