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Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Jess on Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:51 am

I'm thinking that she might be. Sad This week, he has been staying in her humid hide constantly and she won't come out to eat. She gobbled up some bugs that I put in there for her, but her dubia bowl has remained untouched for the last couple days.
When I take her out, she is perfectly normal and alert. She is going to the bathroom normally too. She is only 7 months old so I didn't think they could be gravid this young, but apparently they can if the are over 40 grams and Stella is over 50g.
Compared to Stanley, she does have a very wide-looking abdomen too. Sad (BTW they are housed separately, so if she is gravid the eggs are infertile)

For a lay box, would a tupperware container filled with coco fiber be OK? The pet store I work at sells those Exo Terra snake caves too, if that would be better.

I can post a belly picture in a sec too.

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Post by Mardy on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:23 am

7 month old, she could be having her first ovulation. Although it'd be hard to confirm without belly pics. Sometimes if they know they're going into shed, they'll stop eating a couple of days ahead.

As for the laybox, often times their moist hide is good enough as a laybox depending on the medium you use. But if you want to add a new container and fill it with coco fiber, go for it. Coco fiber is often the ideal substrate for laybox medium. The choice between store bought vs plastic container is really just a cosmetic choice for you, whichever you would like to see in the tank. For your gecko, she won't really care how they look, as long as they work well, are cozy, warm, and contain substrate they can dig in Smile

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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Jess on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:49 am

She just has paper towel in her humid hide, so I don't think that would do for egg laying! And she shed fairly recently and doesn't look like a gecko ghost yet. So I'm pretty sure that isn't it.

I tried to take a picture, but Stella doesn't appreciate being violated and she is making it very difficult! I'll try again later once she calms down.

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Post by Kermit on Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:34 am

Try placing her in a small clear container and take a pic from below. That could help her feel a bit less violated Smile

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Post by smsararas2 on Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:36 am

Def need a pic to tell.
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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Jess on Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:29 pm

Ok, these were the best I could get! She is being a spaz. Let me know if you need more. I think I can kind of see little eggies though. Neutral







Here is her body shape from the top, if that helps.



I ended up getting her the medium snake cave, since I usually crack an average of 3 tupperware containers before I can successfully cut an entrance in one. The cave came with some moss too, so should I mix that in with the Echo Earth or is that an impaction risk?

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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Kodieh on Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:17 pm

It's hard to tell from those pictures, the over head light really kills any possible views. What I can see though, it does look like she's ovulating but no eggs yet. They form on the right and left sides of the belly.
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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Mardy on Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:32 pm

I would say she's ovulating based on the 3rd picture, on the right side of the belly in the pic. You see a round shaped bulge, most likely an egg follicle. They aren't eggs yet, they may or may not develop into eggs. So she's not gravid, but ovulating.

There can be white materials down their belly which can sometimes be mistaken as egg follicles or eggs. But what you want to look for are pink round bulges that push out against their belly when their body is bent a bit backwards. You can probably get better shots when the gecko is crawling up the glass as that tends to push their belly out and show better.

I would suggest using coco fiber and skip the moss. I've read too many impaction posts from people who use moss for my liking. Any loose substrate could lead to impaction, and if I have to pick between coco fiber or moss, I'd take my chances with coco fiber.

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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Jess on Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:05 pm

Sorry guys, I will try to get better pictures!

But how long will her food strike last? Her hiding all the time and not eating is making me worried, even if it's normal. Sad

I will put together her little coco fiber hide tonight then.

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Post by Mardy on Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:28 pm

Food strike duration varies, could be a couple of weeks, could be 2 months. Track her weight, if she's not losing much weight, she'll be fine. It's a normal cycle for female leopard geckos to go through each and every year.

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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Jess on Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:41 pm

Ok. It looks like she finally ate a few roach nymphs though! Smile

Should I keep the lay box in there all the time then, so she won't get egg bound if she does develop the eggs?

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Post by Kermit on Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:30 pm

Absolutely keep the lay box in until youre sure she's past her ovulation and egg cycle which should be, if I remember correctly, march, april? Breeders please chime in here with the typical breeding season months plz.

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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by Mardy on Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:46 am

They start ovulating around December/January, and can ovulate up until around July/August. Some geckos ovulate year round as they are captive bred & raised. If you live somewhere warm, they can ovulate at anytime.

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Re: Is Stella gravid?!

Post by geckochick89 on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:30 pm

wow, she is gorgeous, but a better picture would be necessary. See if you can get her to lean up vertically on the glass, or try to get a good pic beneath her when she is lying down.
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